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Brad critiques the notion of finding common ground with RFK Jr. regarding public health and vaccines. He discusses RFK Jr.’s controversial views and their potential negative impact on American public health. Onishi examines past and present complexities surrounding U.S. public health policies and explores the Trump administration’s influence, drawing connections to historical regulatory frameworks established by FDR. The episode also critiques modern figures promoting a return to pre-20th-century governance, linking their ideas to burgeoning autocratic tendencies.

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